i do believe we need to go over the fiscal cliff to. coming up and having to do a deal at the end of every year is getting old because everybody is rush. what we need to do is it that, let us go over the fiscal cliff, put a temporary hold on everything and let these guys see if they can work out a deal. so far, they have not been able to do it for the last four years. i do believe we need to say -- stay at 18%-20% gdp. as far as cuts, we have really never got in because we were supposed to. that is just like the sequestered. that was passed in 2011. they are still working on the cuts. most of the cuts are based on the increase is built into the baseline. when we do cuts, we need to go back to a zero baseline. host: we will leave it there. stephen dinan. guest: your callers are incredibly a form of this. host: we have a sharp plunge out there. -- bunch out there. guest: president, says his plan will produce x billions of dollars more than boehner's plan. both of them are talking about increased deficits over the baseline. they are talkin